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intrepid01
Apr. 4th, 2010 01:54 am (UTC)
*Pinch of salt*

Dekker likes to stir things up, but I really hope it's true because my faith has been waning.
roxybisquaint
Apr. 4th, 2010 03:26 am (UTC)
Yeah, I think he loves to get us all excited. But he loves the show and wants more of it just like we do. And he's not alone in that. So at the very least, this shows us that fan efforts are not in vain. There is still hope!
phantomwriter05
Apr. 4th, 2010 03:20 am (UTC)
I wish I could believe him.

but then ...

I remember the lies when the show was running so ...

It's a nice gesture though ...

but I think Lena and friedman have claimed they wouldn't ever return to it ...
roxybisquaint
Apr. 4th, 2010 03:25 am (UTC)
This isn't any kind of confirmation that the WB is going to do it, but it certainly shows that there is still a desire to do more. And as long as people involved in the show want it as much as we do (and as long as WB hasn't said NO), then hope is alive.

but I think Lena and friedman have claimed they wouldn't ever return to it

That's not true.
phantomwriter05
Apr. 4th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC)
I'm quite sure that friedman has said he washed his hands of it and in fact encouraged the fans to let it die.

but I remain a stout supporter of anything TSCC so I say go on.

PS. I was going to replay to your comment on i09 saying

"Fewer than you think ..."

"getting your show cancelled ... it makes you do things you would think of ... rox"

LOL I'm a dork ;)
cj2017
Apr. 4th, 2010 01:31 pm (UTC)
I'm quite sure that friedman has said he washed his hands of it and in fact encouraged the fans to let it die.

I think that was him reacting badly to the cancellation of the show he loved, and the manner in which it was cancelled. I'm not sure Friedman would return, but then, I'm not sure he was the most important person behind the scenes anyways (in terms of quality of writing that is.) The show could certainly continue without his creative input and manage just fine.

As for Dekker. I think the boy should come with his own salt-cellar attached so we can sprinkle it liberally over pretty much anything he says, but it's a nice thought.
phantomwriter05
Apr. 4th, 2010 08:07 pm (UTC)
I do remember Season one being awesome under middleton who refused to strike with the writers. (Good man)

So yeah ... but at the same time I'm also scared without Friedman, because even though it wasn't why I watched it I think that Friedman brought the Terminator staple of a love story to the show.

don't get me wrong I like ash miller but he sorely lacks the concept of a love story between John and Cameron that drew alot of people to the show.

I'm not trying to start a shipper war LOL

but what I'm trying to say is that Jameron was the Terminator franchise love story staple that made T-1 and T-2 great movies.

I mean they could bring in a new love intrest, but then we sae how well Riley worked out ...

So like I said I agree that TSCC doesn't need Friedman to countinue but the writers of the show sometimes need to be reeled in by a stronger hand so that they don't kill it with terminal artsieness

longest post ever!

LOL



roxybisquaint
Apr. 5th, 2010 09:02 am (UTC)
I do remember Season one being awesome under middleton who refused to strike with the writers.

He's not a writer, so he didn't have a reason to strike. I'm very glad of that too because I totally agree about season one awesomeness!


he sorely lacks the concept of a love story between John and Cameron that drew alot of people to the show

Fans shipping them is fine. John having confused feelings for a cyborg (the enemy, in a sense) is fine. But a full-on romantic relationship between them seems like such an anti-terminator idea; I can't even imagine the show would go that route.

And plenty of fans (like me) were not watching TSCC for a John and Cameron love story.


Jameron was the Terminator franchise love story staple that made T-1 and T-2 great movies.

No no no no no no no. Sarah/Derek was ;)

Edited at 2010-04-05 09:03 am (UTC)
cj2017
Apr. 5th, 2010 12:20 pm (UTC)
I will concur with Season one awesomeness. Two of my least favourite episodes of S2 were Friedman's (Samson & D and Born to Run) so I can certainly cope with the concept of him not being on board.

he sorely lacks the concept of a love story between John and Cameron that drew alot of people to the show

Ahh yes, um... moving swiftly on...

And plenty of fans (like me) were not watching TSCC for a John and Cameron love story.

What she said.

Jameron was the Terminator franchise love story staple that made T-1 and T-2 great movies.

Not for me, but if it floats yer boat. Personally, Sarah Connor made TSCC great. But then, everyone sings from a different hymn sheet, has a different take on the show and pulled different things from it. The show walked a fine line and - for the most part - did it successfully. BTR overstepped that line for me, so a continuation along that path wouldn't necessarily interest me.

No no no no no no no. Sarah/Derek was ;)

LOL Definitely what she said ;-)
phantomwriter05
Apr. 5th, 2010 06:26 pm (UTC)
LOL I might steal that icon ;)

like I said I'm not going for a shipper war ...

what I was trying to get across was the best Terminator Movies involve a love story that sticks with people.

and there is nothing in a season three setting but John and Cameron (according to what I've heard Alison and John don't like each other at all.)

that is all I'm getting at.

Plus Friedman has said point blank John isn't confused about Cameron he's in love and it was Cameron who was confused about everything between them.

moving on!

and Yes Sarah/Derek would have urned into one of the most volitile relationships (Sarah punching Derek and teh pointing of guns and what not ...)

but then if I remember that's what you want anyway ;)
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roxybisquaint
Apr. 5th, 2010 08:37 am (UTC)
the boy should come with his own salt-cellar attached so we can sprinkle it liberally over pretty much anything he says

Thanks a lot. Now I want some salty snacks. :P
fig_aruna
Apr. 4th, 2010 03:35 am (UTC)
SA-WEEEEEEET!
roxybisquaint
Apr. 5th, 2010 08:35 am (UTC)
Super sweet!
tackdriver56
Apr. 6th, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
Relationships ARE what make stories interesting...
If "reality" TV has demonstrated anything of value, it is that we audiences are interested in relationships between the characters in whatever setting they inhabit.

We are interested in their romances and alliances, their conflicts, their intrigues, their fatal flaws.

Jameron was interesting in that it revealed some aspects of the two characters, while keeping enough distance between them and us, to maintain mystery.

That John and Cameron MUST be central to Season 3, is a myopic viewpoint. From a character development / exploration perspective, Season 3 might spend many episodes on John Henry's maturation and coexistence with Cameron, and their conflict with Skynet, presented in parallel with John Connor's maturation and integration with the Resistance.

What made the Derek and Sarah relationship interesting was the conflicted alliance. We don't, they don't, know what each other is capable of, or their true agenda.

That is still true of John Connor, Cameron, John Henry, Catherine Weaver, Alison Young, Danny Dyson.

We probably know Sarah best of all, but she remains interesting because of her uncertainty regarding those around her, her apparent vulnerability and lethality.
That, and if things ever settle down enough for her to relax, her enormous sex appeal.

You will notice that I didn't mention Riley, or Jesse.
roxybisquaint
Apr. 9th, 2010 06:18 am (UTC)
Re: Relationships ARE what make stories interesting...
Absolutely. And I agree that the same is true of John and Cameron too. It's the interactions of the characters and the nature of the relationships — what it shows us about them, how they evolve as a result of it, how they conflict, how they work together — all of that makes for awesomeness.


You will notice that I didn't mention Riley, or Jesse.

Their absence did not make my heart grow fonder.
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