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Sep. 6th, 2009 at 2:53 PM

I went to a Michael Biehn and Thomas Dekker panel and Thomas gave out more info about where season 3 would go. Some of this is real spoilers, unlike the spoilery hints he gave out before.

Some of this has already been out there for a while, but there's new stuff too. I'll just run down all of it (and I hope I'm getting this right from my memory):

• Savannah Weaver is an important thread in the Resistance and she sacrificed her mother to get John Henry made.

• John will find John Henry with Cameron in his chip and through some complicated process, Cameron is remade.

• John will have have to choose between Allison and Cameron (and he implied that he'd choose Cameron).

• Danny Dyson will be a major character and he is bad.

• Sarah Connor is alive in the future "doing things" (and not because she jumps ahead).

After the panel, I snagged his name tag off the table. And I got to meet

drenkrelar (

sabaceanbabe was there too).

drenkrelar and I walked and talked for a bit then a passerby joined in our TSCC conversation. :)

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gega_cai

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:06 pm (UTC)

I shouldn't have read this, but what does this mean? There will be a season 3 or he's just telling it how it was explained to him because he's sure there will not be a season 3?

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roxybisquaint

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:11 pm (UTC)

This is where the story was going to go had there been a season 3. But as you know, we're *this close* to getting a continuation on DVD. So get involved! Push those s2 DVD sales!

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gega_cai

Sep. 6th, 2009 08:52 pm (UTC)

Alrighty. (Direct to) DVD sounds so much better than a comic book run, book series, or other things I've heard. I guess you're no stranger to that whole TSCC & T5 tie in rumour that has been circling around. I don't think that should be done, but I wouldn't put it past the people who have the money/power to do what it is they do since TSCC seems to be a fan favorite over Terminator Salvation.

Also, *Michael Biehn envy*

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schmacky0

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:15 pm (UTC)

"Savannah Weaver is an important thread in the Resistance and she sacrificed her mother (Weaver) to get John Henry made."

Wha? As in the T-1001 went back on the orders of Savannah? Or she sacrificed the T-1001 for JH

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roxybisquaint

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:20 pm (UTC)

I'm thinking it means Savannah Weaver caused her parents to die in the helicopter crash so that the T-1001 could take over her mother's life and make John Henry. That's just my knee-jerk theory on what it means, though.

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schmacky0

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:27 pm (UTC)

Right, that's what I was thinking which made me go "WTF? Wha?" lol That'd be twisted.

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raychelnina

Sep. 6th, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)

I think future!Savannah had the T-1001 built to resemble her mother and then ordered it to go back to ensure her real parents died in the helicopter crash. So we would have yet another paradox.

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joag

Sep. 7th, 2009 01:56 pm (UTC)

You know, if Savannah Weaver was brought up by Sarah Connor after John jumped into the future, Savannah could become the next futuristic John Connor - a hardened female resistance fighter who could be John's perfect partner in the fight against the machines, which is why he'd be attracted to her. Sarah's influence would go a long way to make her the type of person who could sacrifice her parents for the good of mankind.

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tackdriver56

Sep. 8th, 2009 08:30 pm (UTC)

A more palatable alternative scenario

T-1001 had remnants of a T-800-ish model that were found in the wreckage of the helicopter.
Lets assume that Skynet sent the T-800 to kill the Weaver parents, and the T-1001 was a replacement who took over the development of Skynet's competition: John Henry, fulfilling the role that the Weavers played in the original timeline.

Think "Self Made Man"... certain things have to be made right.

I guess that's a stretch from Dekker's comments above, but I have a hard time accepting at face value that Savanah would knowingly sell out her parents, or that John Connor would knowingly sell out Alison Young. Going dark on us, big time.

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cinebo

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)

Ha wow. That's deep stuff. Gives a whole new perspective on...everything. Even beyond a lot of the theories a lot of us have either come up with or read about. Even reading about it and having more of an idea of what will/would have happened, it would still be cool to see it play out on screen. Thanks for posting. (*cough* Damn you, FOX)

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zanpakto

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:39 pm (UTC)

So there is an older Savannah? This sounds better than season 2. There was only so much they could do in the present and they weren't getting enough info from the future to fight.

Wouldn't it be cool to reshoot an entire season's timeframe but with differences because it got put on a new timeline? That would be awesome! That could be season 4.

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castellan_craft

Sep. 6th, 2009 07:54 pm (UTC)

Well, I guess this sorta answers as well whether they'd have the split stories. Looks like s3 would have gone almost entirely future war aside from things like flashbacks.

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ysrith

Sep. 6th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)

Oooh how interesting.

May I ask what the other spoilers were?

And I am so jealous - both Michael Biehn and Thomas Dekker!!!!!!

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cj2017

Sep. 6th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)

Maybe the complicated process of remaking Cameron involves sacrificing Allison?

So JH is so important to the future of humanity that Future!Savannah was willing to orphan herself (and inflict a childhood of cold laps on poor Present!Savannah) in order to get him created. Yikes.

And Danny Dyson... guess Sarah might have fucked him up slightly as a kid, by shooting his dad in front of him. He probably went into the Make Sentient Machines with an Apocalyptic Bent trade just to spite her!

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cinebo

Sep. 6th, 2009 09:07 pm (UTC)

and omg I so wanna see it all play out in some form (3rd season, dvd movie,......3rd season,) ;)

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indiefic

Sep. 6th, 2009 08:31 pm (UTC)

Michael Biehn and Thomas Dekker ... *ENVY*

Awesome spoilers though.

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serrico

Sep. 6th, 2009 09:42 pm (UTC)

Oh, this SHOW. ♥ ♥ ♥

*BITTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

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valhallalilly

Sep. 7th, 2009 01:07 am (UTC)

John will have have to choose between Allison and Cameron (and he implied that he'd choose Cameron).

NoOOOOOOOOOoOoO
He's gonna allow Allison to die! Future Roxy assured me they wouldn't let John do that! SHe lied to me!!!!!11

If she has to die to save mankind It will be so epically tragic. And what if she knows she has to.

Sorry for spamming my angst all over

GREAT JOB ROXY!

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drenkrelar

Sep. 8th, 2009 06:08 pm (UTC)

To me it sounded like Thomas Dekker would choose Cameron over Allison, not that John Connor would choose Cameron over Allison.

But that's just my interpretation of what I heard him say at the pannel.

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joag

Sep. 7th, 2009 01:48 pm (UTC)

Thank you for posting these tidbits - one can only hope that we get some sort of closure with a DVD, and soon.

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trystanknight

Sep. 7th, 2009 08:53 pm (UTC)

So very jealous, and glad you got to see this! Very interesting stuff. I'm running a Tabletop RPG now about TSCC's 3rd season so this might help ;)

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drenkrelar

Sep. 8th, 2009 06:10 pm (UTC)

Cool!

What system are you using?

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trystanknight

Sep. 8th, 2009 07:03 pm (UTC)

"Armageddon", which is a full-Unisystem game. If you've ever played Buffy RPG, they're using the Cinematic Unisystem but I didn't like that for what I was doing. I've been having to do all the Terminator units by hand though because none of the writeups on the web were quite right.

I wanted to use Call of Cthulu which really seemed like it'd be the best kind of translation of Terminator, but my players didn't want to :D

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