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Fuck you, FOX

Sarah Connor, where are you?

I miss my show so fucking bad.



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equustel
Nov. 6th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
Thinking about where we could be in S3 right now makes my heart hurt. :(
roxybisquaint
Nov. 7th, 2009 05:05 am (UTC)
Mine too. Wherever that story went, you know it would be awesome.
gothamite66
Nov. 6th, 2009 09:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I miss this show more than words could express.
roxybisquaint
Nov. 7th, 2009 05:23 am (UTC)
The novelty of new-season distraction has worn off and it's making me miss TSCC so much lately. I wish WB would make some noise because I'm tired, but I'm not giving up.
the_narration
Nov. 7th, 2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
The novelty of new-season distraction has worn off and it's making me miss TSCC so much lately.
Would some more distractions help? The new season might not have much going for it, but I know of some older shows that are good. (Alas, they are no help for me, as I have already seen them.) Maybe something with a female badass duo so you can get that Sarah & Cameron feel again?
tackdriver56
Nov. 6th, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
Hey...
I left you a little something to stimulate your brain cells. Wrote it several years ago, but thought this might be a good time to share...
roxybisquaint
Nov. 7th, 2009 05:24 am (UTC)
Aw, that's so nice of you. I'll comment over there in a few.
fig_aruna
Nov. 7th, 2009 01:25 am (UTC)
Considering where Dollhouse is right now, perhaps fortunately not on Fox. :( But that's only a viable thought because Fox fucking sucks so badly in the first place. I've been boycotting that network since SCC got pulled. They will never have that power over me again... Well, unless they took on SCC again.

And ^that's^ where I contradict myself. See what Fox has made me into?! Fucking hate those fuckers.
roxybisquaint
Nov. 7th, 2009 05:28 am (UTC)
LOL. I think we all feel the same way. If we entered some alternate reality where Fox suddenly announced they were bringing TSCC back next season, we would all start singing their praises ;)
fig_aruna
Nov. 7th, 2009 12:16 pm (UTC)
But until the entire universe implodes on itself then, I shall be shamelessly hating!

*sobs once more for Sarah*...!
bobmacpharson
Nov. 8th, 2009 04:52 am (UTC)
I'm actually really liking Dollhouse now. First season had a decent plot (starting from episode 6) and if you were paying attention to the allegorical stuff you could see it was going somewhere interesting. But from the very start of season 2, it's like Joss Whedon suddenly said "Oh, yeah, I forgot to make the characters interesting," and suddenly the show got twice as good IMO. The main character is still somewhat forgettable but everyone else is really interesting.

Plus, we get Summer Glau in the next episode. w00t.

Granted, the show essentially HAS been cancelled, but Joss has clearly been approaching it in such a way that whichever season it gets cancelled on, he'll have a complete story told. (Last season's 13th episode could have effectively ended the show, and I suspect that this season's final episode will fill a similar role).
fig_aruna
Nov. 8th, 2009 06:50 pm (UTC)
I'm glad Joss seems to be handling things as best as he can with the situation. Some skanky race issues aside, I really do like him and have enjoyed his work. I felt sad not being able to get into DH. I understand what Joss wanted to examine, but after seeing how it was handled in the pilot made me sick to my stomach for personal reasons. (Frankly, I'm not sure the material can be done through Joss's charateristic dramedy-heavy-on-the-comedy style.)

And then seeing the disgustingly ironic ways in which Fox was promoting the show? Hell no. So I was done with DH early on. I'm not saying it isn't a good show as I plainly just don't know. But circumstances have led me to avoid it, at least presently. Still feel badly for Joss and DH fans in any case.
bobmacpharson
Nov. 13th, 2009 07:50 am (UTC)
The show doesn't have nearly the usual dramedy approach. It's pretty straightforward drama, with a few individual funny moments.

Below is a link to a fairly interesting review of Dollhouse from a feminist perspective. I'm not sure whether this addresses the personal issues you mentioned.

http://tigerbeatdown.blogspot.com/2009/04/dollhouse-joss-whedon-and-strange-and.html

The one issue I have (from a feminist perspective) with the show is that while Joss is intentionally drawing attention to oversexualization in media in a critical, important way... he's also not above using that same attention to appeal to base desires for gratuitous sex. It's a fine line he's trying to walk and I don't think he quite succeeds. However, I still think the show says a lot of good things and compared to many other shows (which feature the same gratuitous-ness without any attempt to say something useful) it's leagues ahead.

I really recommend episode 6, and if it intrigues you then keep going. Season 2 is where it really picks up but if you weren't enjoying Season 1 at all in the first place it probably won't help.
fig_aruna
Nov. 16th, 2009 02:29 am (UTC)
Sorry this is so delayed - busy weekend!
Thank you for the link. It was a good read, and I really appreciate you elaborating on your view :)

That said, while the blogger you linked made some interesting and respectable points (I'm glad to hear how willing Joss seems to be in taking himself to task), my personal issues with watching the show remain [to disclose, I found DH to be kinda trigger-y, and I'm unwilling to put myself knowingly into troubled waters for a show that has had extremely mixed reception]. Furthermore, the issue you articulated yourself has bothered me immensely from the beginning. I agree with you in thinking DH "does a lot better" than other shows in regards to sexual exploitation, but what DH does (at least from what I've seen and heard) seems too much like self-congratulatingly having one's cake and eating it too. IMO, if you are making it a point to create an entire show that's meant to incisively examine the implications and ramifications of sexual exploitation, you have next-to-zero room to employ it. "Higher intentions" don't supply you with any passes in my mind. And any requests for leniency and/or attempts of justification by Joss, et al make me wonder at how deeply they thought about how many women might "experience" the show.

So that's about where I am right now wrt DH. If I happen to read about the show drastically redeeming its (negatively) affecting use of allegory as the series winds down, I might take another look in the future, especially since I'm a fan of Summer's as well. But barring that, I think I might avoid this one indefinitely, Joss or not. :|





the_narration
Nov. 7th, 2009 03:02 am (UTC)
"FOX: We're complete assholes!"

It's a damn shame, especially since there doesn't seem to be much any good scifi on right now (that I know of).

Well, at least I'm finding other things to watch to fill that void, so I'm not bored.
roxybisquaint
Nov. 7th, 2009 05:38 am (UTC)
Scifi, let's see...

Fringe - Yeah, I know, bad me since that's Fox. I still like it, but something feels off with that show this season.

Flash Forward - I really don't even know why I'm still watching that stupid show. I despise the main character.

Sanctuary - After last week I was wondering why I bother, but after tonight, I remember why: Helen Magnus is awesome.
cj2017
Nov. 7th, 2009 10:21 am (UTC)
Fringe - Yeah, I know, bad me since that's Fox. I still like it, but something feels off with that show this season.

The ratings - for one - are certainly off. They were shite this week (I will not, can not start to worry about another show that Fox seem intent on killing with incompetence.) I guess returning after baseball-hiatus with a mind-numbingly boring Boyles episode wasn't the best of ideas. But I'm still enjoying S2 (and just up to the finale of S1!) And I'm watching S2 completely illegally, so I can still fuck Fox!

Flash Forward - I really don't even know why I'm still watching that stupid show. I despise the main character.

We made it through the first twenty minutes then looked at each other: "Not actually very good this is it?" "Nope." "Wanna switch over?" "Yep." Large emsemble casts and over-arcing-over-arsing HIGH CONCEPT plots just bore the socks off me.

I miss the whole week-in, week-out TSCC fan stuff! Dissecting new episodes, looking forward to the next one, guessing spoilers and twists. One thing I don't miss is the week-in, week-out terror of the ratings-reveal. I just wish TSCC had found the audience it deserved to ensure that it had a decent run of episodes. So many stories still to tell...
the_narration
Nov. 7th, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
Fringe - I decided after a couple seasons of Lost that I was done with watching J.J. Abrams shows. A show with a mystery driving the plot simply cannot make things up as they go, because then shit doesn't make sense. And inconsistent characterization makes Narrator angry.

Flash Forward - Haven't seen it, don't know anything about it, and since it sounds like you think it sucks I'll probably keep it that way.

Sanctuary - Saw the first few episodes before my work schedule made watching TV on Friday nights implausible. Was fun, but not especially outstanding. Would be willing to resume watching if doing so wouldn't be complicated.
drenkrelar
Nov. 10th, 2009 11:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah the sci-fi this season sucks ass.

Fringe, Flash Forward, Sanctuary, Dollhouse, Stargate Universe, Heroes, etc.

With the possible exception of V, all the sci-fi shows on the air suck.

I want to like Stargate Universe, I want to like Heroes, and I want to like Dollhouse, but so far all three thave left me dissapointed.
the_narration
Nov. 11th, 2009 05:08 am (UTC)
Yeah, it's like '09 is the year of the suck. There's no good scifi from Japan right now, either.

Might be a good time to start checking out the classics. I've been thinking about watching the original V now that there's a remake, and I never saw Babylon 5.
tackdriver56
Nov. 12th, 2009 10:29 pm (UTC)
Babylon 5
I bought the set, having missed a lot of episodes due to business trips and I seem to recall some monkeying with the broadcast schedule.
It was great to be able to watch the whole thing through. Lots of good themes, characters, romance. A bit magicky/fantastic, but a good show.
CGI looks a little dated now, but who's keeping score? Well worth watching.
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